Does anyone know when the term "file 13" to refer to the wastebasket was firsr used in the US Army?It"s in the Dictionary of Small Business athttp://www.small-business-dictionary.org/default.asp?term=FILE+13 I can"t help with the origin, though.Skitt (in SF Bay Area) http://www.geocities.com/opus731/ I speak English well I learn it from a book! Manuel (Fawlty Towers)


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It"s in the Dictionary of Small Business at http://www.small-business-dictionary.org/default.asp?term=FILE+13 I can"t help with the origin, though. I have it in "Jackspeak", a guide to Royal Navy Slang published 1988. No word on origin.John DeanOxfordDe-frag to reply
Does anyone know when the term "file 13" to refer to the wastebasket was firsr used in the US Army?I know it to be at least a minute and a half old, because I just now heard of it for the first time.I once thought of "file under "O"" and used it a few times, but it didn"t catch on, so far as I know. Come to think of it, I don"t remember when I last saw a round wastebasket. They all seem to have been rectangular for a long time now.
I know it to be at least a minute and a half old, because I just now heard of it ... remember when I last saw a round wastebasket. They all seem to have been rectangular for a long time now.Circular file was often used euphemistically for the wastebasket. I haven"t this usage in a long tins , too.
Does anyone know when the term "file 13" to refer to the wastebasket was firsr used in the US Army?This may come from IBM punch card sorters, which had sort pockets for12 values, and I can"t be sure, but some sorters may have had a pocketfor "none of the above".John W Hall (Email Removed)Calgary, Alberta, Canada."Helping People Prosper in the Information Age"


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Does anyone know when the term "file 13" to refer to the wastebasket was firsr used in the US Army?Well ProQuest claims a first instance of "file 13" back in 1812, but I somehow suspect that that isn"t the same sense.The earliest I can seem to find, which is about as far back as ProQuest"s "current" stuff goes, is from Businest Firsns , February 25, 1985:Correspondence beginning with "Estimado Senor" or some foreign hieroglyphics all too frequently ends up in file 13, because most businesses are not equipped to cope with foreign language.From the Chicago Tribune , January 17, 1986:It"s bad enough having to wade through all those forms and instructions to pay the taxes without having all that pain and agony go to waste when an IRS computer converts itself into a shredder or some overtime employee decides to reduce his work load with File 13.So by then it was common enough outside the army that they didn"t think it needed explanation. The same month sawDear Struggling Artist - forget playing in nightclubs, trade in that touring van and all those outdated amplifiers. Scrap that fuzzy-headed notion of making a career as a performing and working musician. Toss all those wonderful song ideas into File 13.in the Houston Chronicle . There are only four twentieth century hits prior to that, and all appear to be spurious.Evan Kirshenbaum + HP Laboratories >If you think health care is1501 Page Mill Road, 1U, MS 1141 >expensive now, wait until you seePalo Alto, CA 94304 >what it costs when it"s free.(650)857-7572http://www.kirshenbaum.net /